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If it Looks Like a Duck

Submitted by ernurse on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 18:59.

... walks like a duck, and quacks liks a duck, it may not be a duck.

A 56 year old male patient, moderately overweight, presented to the ED with all the classic symptoms of an acute MI (myocardial infarction, AKA a heart attack). He was diaphoretic, short of breath, hypertensive, tachycardic, and complaining of chest pain which felt like "someone was sitting on his chest". The pain was radiating to his jaw and down his arm.

All the classic flags for an acute MI went up and we quickly begun to work him up as such. We inserted a saline lock, drew cardiac enzymes and other labs, put him on 2 liters of oxygen via nasal cannula, got an EKG, chest X-ray, etc etc - the standard protocols. The patient was in too much distress to speak or give us a history and didn't have anyone with him since he had driven himself to the ED.

The EKG was definitely positive for an ST elevation acute MI and we started making the calls to cardiology, cath lab, etc. As we were doing all this, I went over to the bedside and started to talk to him, telling him what was happening. He begun to gesture frantically when he heard the words "cardiac cath", and he was desperately trying to tell me something. He was so agitated that he was hyperventilating. I got the doc to come in, and we tried to calm him down, and finally he was able to speak to us and tell us that he didn't need the cath lab, he wasn't having an MI, he was having an episode associated with Tako-tsubo syndrome, a rare syndrome that mimics an acute MI.

I didn't have the opportunity to follow his case since we were at shift change by that point, but here's some interesting stuff I learnt:

Tako-tsubo Cardiomyopathy or Syndrome is also known as: neurogenic myocardial stunning, stress cardiomyopathy, stress-induced cardiomyopathy, transient left ventricular apical ballooning, "ampulla" cardiomyopathy, or "broken heart syndrome" (because it if often precipitated by an emotional stressor such as the death of a loved one). It presents clinically with all the symptomatology of an acute MI. During an attack, a bulging out of the left ventricular apex with a hypercontractile base of the left ventricle is often noted. It is this hallmark bulging out of the apex of the heart with preserved function of the base that earned the syndrome its name "tako tsubo", or octopus trap in Japan, where it was first described. It is precipitated by severe emotional stress which causes an overabundance of catecholamines in the system. There is no vessel blockage to explain the ventricular dysfunction, and with supportive measures the ventricular function is often restored in two months.

You can read more about Tako-tsubo syndrome in layman's terms at http://www.takotsubo.com/.

More reading:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/521107_2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takotsubo_cardiomyopathy

A duck is occasionally not always a duck.

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wow

Submitted by Braden (not verified) on Tue, 08/05/2008 - 20:23.

that's amazing. Makes you wonder how many other rare diseases we end up mis-diagnosing.

Have you found out how to differentiate between this and a real MI? (Besides the patient telling you so, I mean).

The fear for me here is that the patient might think it is just an attack of Tako-tsubo when it really is an MI.

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that's a good question

Submitted by ernurse on Tue, 08/05/2008 - 21:29.

That would be scary, for the pt to be having an MI and we think its Tako-tsobu! I haven't had the chance to read much more on it all, I'm still working on understanding all the other more ordinary stuff!!! LOL

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answer to a feeling-like-duck feeling

Submitted by family history research (not verified) on Fri, 11/14/2008 - 06:11.

you would really look like a duck, a thrased up duck if you have all these misfortunes....good thing we have an answer for that and back here in our place, we call them QUACK DOCTORS!

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Wow...

Submitted by physician (not verified) on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 00:09.

I think I may have had a patient that was along these lines and I've never seen or read anything that could diagnose him as 'broken heart' syndrome. Very interesting and it looks like I have some reading to do from your attached links. Thanks!

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I've seen this happen first

Submitted by natural skin care (not verified) on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 19:30.

I've seen this happen first hand when working in ER back in '83. It was amazing what the doctors would do to diagnose the patients and then push them off for the next group of people. Once you got down to talking with them you could see where the true problem lied.

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I have heard about "broken

Submitted by guest (not verified) on Tue, 01/06/2009 - 11:20.

I have heard about "broken heart syndrome" for the first time. You doctors must have to work so hard with the patient as his condition was very bad with an acute MI moving up.

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Wow! I had no idea that this

Submitted by lisa (not verified) on Wed, 02/18/2009 - 19:21.

Wow! I had no idea that this was an actual condition. In a world where we over diagnose it's hard to believe everything you read and see. Although quite honestly this one makes sense to me, I mean quite honestly we've all had our hearts broken and it's not a fun experience.

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If it looks like a duck...

Submitted by stressless anne (not verified) on Mon, 03/09/2009 - 03:04.

It's interesting how stress can affect us in so many ways. This example though of how "broken heart syndrome" can be cured in 2 months as oppossed to the intial symptoms which indicated something more severe is a blessing for the patient. Sad to know they were quite down about something in their life though. :(
~Anne

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It definitely makes you

Submitted by naturalskin care (not verified) on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 20:57.

It definitely makes you wonder how many other systems are mis-diagnosed and as a result, mis-treated. This is a very dangerous situation that can result in severe injury, trauma, or even death. So as medical physicians, one must be especially diligent in researching symptoms and correctly diagnosing symptoms.

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Stress

Submitted by Free Samples (not verified) on Fri, 03/27/2009 - 15:58.

Stress is the cause of so many terrible things! When I see a case like this, I instantly think of the placebo effect. The mind is the most complex organ we will ever come into contact with. It can do things we might not be able to ever comprehend. Hence, simulating a heart attack due to the immense heart ache of losing someone we love.

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exceptions

Submitted by Matt (not verified) on Wed, 09/30/2009 - 19:30.

that is strange, i guess weird things happen all the time, and you just have to learn and adapt.

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